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point is

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rarely

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are these programs top driven i mean

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there's something compelling and

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therefore it comes down to long high

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it's a

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much more likely it's individuals who

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have personal interest and

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experience and push the

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noodle back up the chain of command

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and get to the point and

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this patient

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will get into funding and all that but

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you have to understand how the funding

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process works it's terribly very complex

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and you can move certain amounts of

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money around there are some

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discretionary funds

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but then there's funding thresholds as

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you get to bigger and bigger amounts

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then you've got to go to higher and

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higher levels and with that comes

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oversight and just becomes more

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difficult and

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more administratively restrictive

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so that makes sense that the smaller you

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can keep a program with the less people

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involved and the less budget required

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the less oversight you're going to have

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and the less eyes and ears you're going

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to have on the program so you can almost

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get it started but like you say keeping

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that progression going and securing that

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higher funding is much more difficult

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yeah

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um

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probably sounds like a lot but you can

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probably look about under 20 million

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dollars

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most of the time

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and find covers of those individuals

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uh seniors who were

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willing to allow someone if you remember

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the offset or atep program came in at 22

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million

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if you look at the remote viewing

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program that was kind of around 20

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million but that again once a program of